1 00:00:03,951 --> 00:00:07,397 - In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:07,398 --> 00:00:08,834 the people are represented 3 00:00:08,835 --> 00:00:11,358 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:11,359 --> 00:00:13,229 the police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:13,230 --> 00:00:16,145 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:16,146 --> 00:00:17,713 These are their stories. 7 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:21,847 - I told you, this has to stop. 8 00:00:22,022 --> 00:00:23,402 Please, just leave me alone. 9 00:00:23,545 --> 00:00:24,807 - Emily, 10 00:00:25,025 --> 00:00:26,852 everyone's waiting to toast you. 11 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:28,331 - [sighs] 12 00:00:28,332 --> 00:00:29,768 - You okay? 13 00:00:29,986 --> 00:00:32,466 - Gotta keep the bad energy far away, right? 14 00:00:32,467 --> 00:00:35,818 [breathes deeply] Okay. 15 00:00:36,036 --> 00:00:37,236 [upbeat music playing] 16 00:00:37,298 --> 00:00:39,213 [cheers and applause] 17 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:40,480 - Emily! 18 00:00:40,649 --> 00:00:44,218 [cheering] 19 00:00:44,435 --> 00:00:47,350 - Great work, Emily! 20 00:00:47,351 --> 00:00:48,831 - You're brilliant! 21 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:52,225 - I wanna thank you all for coming tonight, 22 00:00:52,226 --> 00:00:54,183 my fellow free thinkers, 23 00:00:54,184 --> 00:00:56,578 my passionate positivists. - Yes! 24 00:00:56,579 --> 00:00:58,883 - Tomorrow we get to share so many of the ideas 25 00:00:58,884 --> 00:01:00,799 we've discovered together. 26 00:01:01,017 --> 00:01:05,282 We get to help even more people embrace holistic wellness. 27 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:08,372 Here's to long, healthy lives ahead. 28 00:01:08,590 --> 00:01:11,419 [cheers and applause] 29 00:01:13,421 --> 00:01:15,466 - All right, what have we got? 30 00:01:15,684 --> 00:01:18,121 - Female, mid-30s, 31 00:01:18,339 --> 00:01:19,909 gunshot to the back of the head. 32 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,559 Name is Emily Starr. 33 00:01:21,777 --> 00:01:23,170 - Close range, huh? 34 00:01:23,171 --> 00:01:25,258 - MLI said there was some stippling on the scalp 35 00:01:25,259 --> 00:01:26,302 from the powder burns. 36 00:01:26,303 --> 00:01:27,783 - Time of death? 37 00:01:27,784 --> 00:01:30,089 - Body temp indicates between 10:00 and midnight. 38 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:31,699 - Any witnesses? 39 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:33,266 - A clerk at the bodega around the corner remembers hearing 40 00:01:33,267 --> 00:01:36,574 a loud noise around 10:45 and seeing someone 41 00:01:36,575 --> 00:01:39,707 rush from the scaffolding in a puffy tan coat with a tote bag. 42 00:01:39,708 --> 00:01:41,536 - Man? Woman? - He couldn't say. 43 00:01:41,753 --> 00:01:43,625 Perp had a hood and scarf on. 44 00:01:43,626 --> 00:01:46,322 - Guessing because of the scaffolding, no cameras? 45 00:01:46,323 --> 00:01:47,889 - Nothing functioning around here. 46 00:01:47,890 --> 00:01:48,940 - Thanks. 47 00:01:48,978 --> 00:01:50,414 - What have we got? 48 00:01:50,632 --> 00:01:53,286 Right. Wallet, phone. 49 00:01:53,287 --> 00:01:54,723 - That's a pretty nice purse. 50 00:01:56,464 --> 00:01:58,814 - Emily Starr. 51 00:01:59,031 --> 00:02:01,860 "Your Amazing Life." 52 00:02:02,078 --> 00:02:04,298 - Just got cut short. 53 00:02:04,515 --> 00:02:07,301 [tense music] 54 00:02:07,518 --> 00:02:10,217 ? ? 55 00:02:10,434 --> 00:02:13,133 [dramatic music] 56 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:20,314 ? ? 57 00:02:56,306 --> 00:02:59,439 - How long had you been working for her? 58 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,963 - Three years. 59 00:03:01,181 --> 00:03:04,358 - Emily was a wellness influencer? 60 00:03:04,575 --> 00:03:05,625 TikTok and all that? 61 00:03:05,794 --> 00:03:07,187 - It started that way. 62 00:03:07,404 --> 00:03:09,972 About ten years ago, she beat stomach cancer- 63 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:11,886 naturally. 64 00:03:11,887 --> 00:03:13,931 She started a vlog about it, that caught on, 65 00:03:13,932 --> 00:03:15,890 and pretty soon, she was recommending 66 00:03:15,891 --> 00:03:19,199 homeopathic remedies for sleep issues, skin problems. 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,938 A few years ago she opened the center here 68 00:03:20,939 --> 00:03:22,201 because so many of her followers 69 00:03:22,202 --> 00:03:24,682 wanted to work with her in person. 70 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:28,208 - Does Emily have any family that we should be notifying? 71 00:03:28,209 --> 00:03:29,991 - No-her mom split when she was young, 72 00:03:29,992 --> 00:03:31,562 and her dad died of lung cancer. 73 00:03:31,563 --> 00:03:34,125 That's what got her started on her health journey. 74 00:03:34,126 --> 00:03:37,042 - Emily was killed on 10th and 27th. 75 00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:39,000 You know what she was doing there? 76 00:03:39,001 --> 00:03:41,350 - She was walking home from her book party here. 77 00:03:41,351 --> 00:03:43,135 - Did she leave alone? - Yeah. 78 00:03:43,136 --> 00:03:44,658 - Were there any problems at the party? 79 00:03:44,659 --> 00:03:45,709 Any arguments? 80 00:03:45,790 --> 00:03:46,965 - No. 81 00:03:47,183 --> 00:03:49,620 It was a great night. [sighs] 82 00:03:49,621 --> 00:03:52,056 But she did get a call that kind of rattled her. 83 00:03:52,057 --> 00:03:53,885 - Do you know who from? - No. 84 00:03:54,103 --> 00:03:57,628 She stepped away to take it and looked worried. 85 00:03:58,629 --> 00:04:00,978 [phone ringing] 86 00:04:00,979 --> 00:04:03,286 - The ME says the slug pulled from the vic 87 00:04:03,504 --> 00:04:05,680 was from a.22 caliber. 88 00:04:05,681 --> 00:04:08,247 The grate sweeps have not found a murder weapon, 89 00:04:08,248 --> 00:04:10,858 so where are we at with this menacing conversation? 90 00:04:10,859 --> 00:04:11,946 - According to Emily Starr's cell records, 91 00:04:11,947 --> 00:04:13,731 between 7:00 and 9:00 p.m., 92 00:04:13,732 --> 00:04:15,819 she got seven calls from the same number. 93 00:04:15,820 --> 00:04:17,257 - And? 94 00:04:17,431 --> 00:04:19,259 - The number traces to 95 00:04:19,476 --> 00:04:20,737 Skylar Gibson. 96 00:04:20,738 --> 00:04:24,393 - Oh, she's another health influencer. 97 00:04:24,394 --> 00:04:26,614 And judging by her social media posts- 98 00:04:26,831 --> 00:04:29,356 99 00:04:29,573 --> 00:04:31,488 she's not a fan of Emily Starr. 100 00:04:31,706 --> 00:04:35,013 - She also texted Emily an hour before she was killed. 101 00:04:35,231 --> 00:04:37,973 "Watch your back, bitch." 102 00:04:38,190 --> 00:04:39,975 - That doesn't sound healthy. 103 00:04:43,065 --> 00:04:45,197 - Emily and I used to be friends, 104 00:04:45,372 --> 00:04:47,591 roommates for a couple years. 105 00:04:47,592 --> 00:04:49,766 We planned to write a wellness book together. 106 00:04:49,767 --> 00:04:51,159 - And what, she went off on her own? 107 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,378 - [sighs] 108 00:04:52,379 --> 00:04:54,946 She wrote her book without even telling me. 109 00:04:54,947 --> 00:04:57,165 Then last week I got my hands on an early copy, 110 00:04:57,166 --> 00:04:59,255 saw my recipes, my pose sequence. 111 00:04:59,429 --> 00:05:01,170 - And that ticked you off? 112 00:05:01,171 --> 00:05:04,041 - The wellness market is a $2 trillion industry, detectives. 113 00:05:04,042 --> 00:05:05,914 We all want a piece. 114 00:05:05,915 --> 00:05:07,567 This was a serious business dispute. 115 00:05:07,568 --> 00:05:08,916 - "Watch your back, bitch"? 116 00:05:08,917 --> 00:05:09,917 - That doesn't sound very businessy. 117 00:05:09,918 --> 00:05:10,961 - Mm-mm. 118 00:05:10,962 --> 00:05:12,528 You got an alibi for last night? 119 00:05:12,529 --> 00:05:14,443 - I was leading an online breath class- 120 00:05:14,444 --> 00:05:16,184 the whole thing was recorded. 121 00:05:16,185 --> 00:05:19,135 I never stepped foot outside this building until 11:00 p.m. 122 00:05:20,189 --> 00:05:22,539 Look, I'm sorry she's dead, truly. 123 00:05:22,757 --> 00:05:24,366 - Okay. 124 00:05:24,367 --> 00:05:27,849 But can you think of anyone who might want to kill her? 125 00:05:28,066 --> 00:05:29,720 - [sighs] 126 00:05:29,938 --> 00:05:33,376 Well, her ex, Zane, loved her too much. 127 00:05:33,594 --> 00:05:35,291 Trolled her after the breakup. 128 00:05:35,465 --> 00:05:36,858 Dude had anger issues. 129 00:05:37,075 --> 00:05:38,686 [soft tense music] 130 00:05:38,687 --> 00:05:41,644 And I'm betting he didn't like that Emily wrote about him. 131 00:05:41,645 --> 00:05:42,993 - In her new book? 132 00:05:42,994 --> 00:05:46,694 - Chapter 13, "Cleansing Yourself of an Evil Ex." 133 00:05:46,911 --> 00:05:50,132 ? ? 134 00:05:56,747 --> 00:05:58,531 - Hi, Zane. 135 00:05:58,532 --> 00:05:59,532 We're just gonna play a little show and tell, all right? 136 00:05:59,533 --> 00:06:00,968 I'm gonna show you a video, 137 00:06:00,969 --> 00:06:01,925 you're gonna tell me what the hell you're doing. 138 00:06:01,926 --> 00:06:04,276 Sit down. 139 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:10,152 That's you at Emily's book party two nights ago, 140 00:06:10,153 --> 00:06:13,154 trying to get in, while that nice gentleman with the iPad 141 00:06:13,155 --> 00:06:15,026 is telling you to take a hike. 142 00:06:15,244 --> 00:06:17,246 That piss you off? - No! 143 00:06:17,247 --> 00:06:19,421 I-I just wanted five minutes of her time. 144 00:06:19,422 --> 00:06:20,857 I wanted to make amends. 145 00:06:20,858 --> 00:06:22,772 - Make amends for trolling her online for a year? 146 00:06:22,773 --> 00:06:24,732 - Look, I'm a better man now, okay? 147 00:06:24,949 --> 00:06:26,864 I-I'm getting married next month, 148 00:06:27,082 --> 00:06:28,952 and I credit Emily for motivating me 149 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,389 to get my act together. 150 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:32,827 - Why the sudden need to unburden yourself? 151 00:06:32,828 --> 00:06:34,393 I mean, do you really think she would have 152 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:36,308 wanted you at her big night? 153 00:06:36,309 --> 00:06:37,700 - I heard her on the radio this week. 154 00:06:37,701 --> 00:06:39,529 She was reading from her book. 155 00:06:39,747 --> 00:06:44,315 It's a bit about me, and I sounded awful. 156 00:06:44,316 --> 00:06:46,667 So I went to apologize, 157 00:06:46,668 --> 00:06:48,885 and then they wouldn't let me in, so I left. 158 00:06:48,886 --> 00:06:50,409 - Where'd you go? 159 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:53,456 - Just a bar I know. It's a mile north of the event. 160 00:06:56,546 --> 00:06:58,983 - Hey, Zane's alibi holds. 161 00:06:59,201 --> 00:07:01,290 Got surveillance from outside the bar. 162 00:07:01,464 --> 00:07:04,206 He leaves six minutes after the shot was fired. 163 00:07:04,424 --> 00:07:05,512 - Okay. 164 00:07:05,729 --> 00:07:07,644 Is that a city bus coming up 10th Ave 165 00:07:07,645 --> 00:07:09,297 from the direction of the shooting? 166 00:07:09,298 --> 00:07:10,994 - It is, which means that it passed 167 00:07:10,995 --> 00:07:12,648 by the area of the shooting just minutes prior. 168 00:07:12,649 --> 00:07:13,969 - Did you pull the dash cam? 169 00:07:13,970 --> 00:07:15,390 - Mm-hmm, and look what it found 170 00:07:15,391 --> 00:07:17,141 a few blocks north of the shooting. 171 00:07:18,176 --> 00:07:19,743 - You run facial rec? 172 00:07:19,961 --> 00:07:22,006 - No luck. The face isn't visible enough. 173 00:07:22,007 --> 00:07:23,746 - But the figure does match the description 174 00:07:23,747 --> 00:07:26,097 we got from the witness, minus the tote bag. 175 00:07:26,098 --> 00:07:28,272 - So the shooter must have ditched the tote bag 176 00:07:28,273 --> 00:07:29,578 between the shooting and here. 177 00:07:29,579 --> 00:07:30,884 - Do you have a map of the area? 178 00:07:30,885 --> 00:07:31,935 - Yeah. 179 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,501 - Okay, see right there? 180 00:07:38,502 --> 00:07:40,459 That passageway that the shooter's coming out of, 181 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:41,677 that's a dead end. 182 00:07:41,678 --> 00:07:43,679 - So the shooter ducked in and ducked out. 183 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,246 - Call the SRGs. 184 00:07:45,247 --> 00:07:47,897 I'm sure there's a couple of dumpsters in that alley. 185 00:07:48,990 --> 00:07:50,120 [gunshot] 186 00:07:50,121 --> 00:07:51,470 - The gun was still in the tote bag, 187 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:54,038 so it wasn't contaminated with any trash. 188 00:07:54,039 --> 00:07:56,083 - Any prints? - Nothing on the weapon. 189 00:07:56,084 --> 00:07:59,783 But when we test-fired it, we found something interesting. 190 00:08:00,001 --> 00:08:01,481 See those grooves? 191 00:08:01,655 --> 00:08:03,787 - Yeah. Any match in NIBIN? 192 00:08:04,005 --> 00:08:05,875 - Primer pin markings on this casing 193 00:08:05,876 --> 00:08:08,225 are an exact match to a bullet pulled from a convenience store 194 00:08:08,226 --> 00:08:09,606 armed robbery six years ago. 195 00:08:09,793 --> 00:08:11,185 - What happened to that gun? 196 00:08:11,186 --> 00:08:12,926 - According to the file, it was never recovered. 197 00:08:12,927 --> 00:08:14,623 But they did get the shooter. 198 00:08:14,624 --> 00:08:16,254 Got a conviction based on video. 199 00:08:16,365 --> 00:08:17,584 - Who was the shooter? 200 00:08:17,801 --> 00:08:19,107 - Eric Domingo, 201 00:08:19,324 --> 00:08:20,891 from South Ozone Park. 202 00:08:21,109 --> 00:08:23,024 Some narcotics priors. 203 00:08:23,241 --> 00:08:24,501 - Any idea where he is now? 204 00:08:24,502 --> 00:08:26,113 - Looks like he was up at Mid-State 205 00:08:26,114 --> 00:08:27,942 but was released a month ago. 206 00:08:28,159 --> 00:08:30,901 [suspenseful music] 207 00:08:31,119 --> 00:08:32,947 ? ? 208 00:08:33,164 --> 00:08:35,123 [pounding on door] 209 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:37,081 - NYPD! 210 00:08:37,299 --> 00:08:38,735 Domingo, open up! 211 00:08:38,953 --> 00:08:40,003 NYPD! 212 00:08:40,004 --> 00:08:42,521 - Whoa, whoa, whoa, officers! 213 00:08:42,522 --> 00:08:43,958 - Stand back! Stand back! 214 00:08:44,175 --> 00:08:45,481 - I- - You stand back! 215 00:08:45,655 --> 00:08:47,701 - There's nothing in the house, I swear. 216 00:08:47,702 --> 00:08:49,049 - All right, check the back room. 217 00:08:49,050 --> 00:08:50,312 Make sure it's clear. 218 00:08:50,313 --> 00:08:51,660 - You're not gonna find anything. 219 00:08:51,661 --> 00:08:52,966 - We're not interested in your dope. 220 00:08:52,967 --> 00:08:54,597 We wanna talk about Emily Starr. 221 00:08:54,598 --> 00:08:55,969 - I don't know what you're talking about. 222 00:08:55,970 --> 00:08:57,579 - That surprises me, 'cause she was killed 223 00:08:57,580 --> 00:08:58,841 by the gun you used in an armed robbery 224 00:08:58,842 --> 00:09:00,016 a few years ago. 225 00:09:00,017 --> 00:09:01,845 - And we also have a bullet from it 226 00:09:02,063 --> 00:09:05,196 that pierced the skull of a 34-year-old woman. 227 00:09:05,414 --> 00:09:06,546 - [exhales] 228 00:09:06,763 --> 00:09:08,242 Holy- 229 00:09:08,243 --> 00:09:10,157 - So you wanna tell us where you were two nights ago, 230 00:09:10,158 --> 00:09:12,029 around 10:45? 231 00:09:12,030 --> 00:09:13,552 - You mean Thursday night? 232 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:14,684 - Yeah. 233 00:09:14,902 --> 00:09:16,643 - That was my recovery meeting. 234 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:19,123 Yeah, yeah, at St. Mary of Ascension. 235 00:09:19,341 --> 00:09:20,777 Talk to Father Romano. 236 00:09:20,995 --> 00:09:22,257 There were ten of us. 237 00:09:22,258 --> 00:09:24,084 He had us praying, praying to stay clean. 238 00:09:24,085 --> 00:09:26,043 It was from 9:00 to 11:00. 239 00:09:26,044 --> 00:09:27,957 - So how did your gun end up as a murder weapon 240 00:09:27,958 --> 00:09:29,089 while you're talking to God? 241 00:09:29,090 --> 00:09:30,395 ? ? 242 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:32,049 - Hey, look, 243 00:09:32,267 --> 00:09:35,313 my girl pawned it while I was in. 244 00:09:35,531 --> 00:09:38,490 She needed the cash. 245 00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:40,101 - Clayton Boyce? 246 00:09:40,318 --> 00:09:41,798 - You're law enforcement? 247 00:09:42,016 --> 00:09:44,627 - That is correct. 248 00:09:44,845 --> 00:09:47,195 We're here about a gun a New York City pawn shop 249 00:09:47,282 --> 00:09:48,892 resold you a few months ago. 250 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:51,067 - Sounds like an illegal firearm 251 00:09:51,068 --> 00:09:54,245 and an illegal transaction, which I would not partake in. 252 00:09:54,463 --> 00:09:55,855 - That's so funny. 253 00:09:55,856 --> 00:09:57,987 That's exactly what the pawn shop guy said to me 254 00:09:57,988 --> 00:10:00,207 right before I threatened to have the ATF shut him down. 255 00:10:00,208 --> 00:10:01,470 - I got rights. 256 00:10:01,471 --> 00:10:02,905 I don't have to speak to you. 257 00:10:02,906 --> 00:10:04,428 - Oh, we got rights too. 258 00:10:04,429 --> 00:10:06,779 We got rights to get a warrant for all your records, 259 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:08,651 every transaction. 260 00:10:08,652 --> 00:10:11,653 I mean, if you sold one single keychain without sales tax, 261 00:10:11,654 --> 00:10:14,484 the state has the right to revoke your business license. 262 00:10:14,485 --> 00:10:16,440 And that's after we exercise our right 263 00:10:16,441 --> 00:10:18,792 to get your FFL yanked. 264 00:10:19,009 --> 00:10:23,057 - Listen, that.22 revolver was used in a murder. 265 00:10:23,274 --> 00:10:25,144 If you help us find out who bought it, 266 00:10:25,145 --> 00:10:27,669 we may just get too busy chasing down our suspect... 267 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:28,802 - We get very focused. 268 00:10:28,803 --> 00:10:30,237 - And we just don't have any time 269 00:10:30,238 --> 00:10:31,761 to look into your bookkeeping. 270 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:35,809 - At the gun shows, people show up with cash 271 00:10:35,810 --> 00:10:37,984 looking for something under the table. 272 00:10:37,985 --> 00:10:40,074 Some sellers unload stuff out back. 273 00:10:40,075 --> 00:10:42,379 - You got a place and date for this gun show 274 00:10:42,380 --> 00:10:44,512 where this.22, which you know nothing about, 275 00:10:44,513 --> 00:10:46,167 disappeared? 276 00:10:46,384 --> 00:10:48,778 - Falling Rock Gun Show, ten days ago. 277 00:10:50,388 --> 00:10:52,498 - There's no list of gun show attendants, 278 00:10:52,499 --> 00:10:54,391 but we managed to get parking lot video. 279 00:10:54,392 --> 00:10:56,133 - We ran 122 plates. 280 00:10:56,134 --> 00:10:58,918 - Any matches to anyone on Emily Starr's contact list? 281 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:00,137 - Nothing. 282 00:11:00,138 --> 00:11:01,834 But three were rental cars, so we looked 283 00:11:01,835 --> 00:11:03,314 at video of those drivers. 284 00:11:03,532 --> 00:11:05,522 Two show their faces in broad daylight. 285 00:11:05,523 --> 00:11:07,491 But this one, the one with the hat down, scarf up- 286 00:11:07,492 --> 00:11:08,842 - Trying to hide. 287 00:11:08,843 --> 00:11:10,190 - That car was rented to a Roger Massey 288 00:11:10,191 --> 00:11:11,571 from Darien, Connecticut- 289 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:14,238 52, married, works for Capstone Insurance. 290 00:11:14,456 --> 00:11:17,106 - Why don't you run the rental plates through the MTA 291 00:11:17,107 --> 00:11:19,199 and see if that car was anywhere near Manhattan 292 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,890 the night of the murder? - Mm-hmm. 293 00:11:20,891 --> 00:11:23,072 - And, uh, does this guy have any link to Emily? 294 00:11:23,073 --> 00:11:25,118 - He's not on her client or follower list. 295 00:11:25,119 --> 00:11:29,036 - Looks like he came in over the Triborough at 8:18 p.m. 296 00:11:29,253 --> 00:11:32,169 Went back over the bridge at 11:52 p.m. 297 00:11:32,387 --> 00:11:34,389 - That's an hour after the murder. 298 00:11:34,606 --> 00:11:36,434 - Let's call in a warrant. 299 00:11:36,652 --> 00:11:38,610 [tense music] 300 00:11:38,785 --> 00:11:40,177 [knock at door] 301 00:11:40,343 --> 00:11:43,789 - What in the hell is going on here? 302 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:44,659 - We have a warrant to search your premises. 303 00:11:44,660 --> 00:11:45,747 Step aside, sir. 304 00:11:45,748 --> 00:11:48,010 Thank you. - Search for what? Why? 305 00:11:48,011 --> 00:11:51,232 - Mr. Massey, your rental car was in Pennsylvania last week 306 00:11:51,233 --> 00:11:53,712 at a gun show where we believe you purchased a weapon 307 00:11:53,713 --> 00:11:55,149 used in a recent murder. 308 00:11:55,366 --> 00:11:57,064 - Murder? Pennsylvania? 309 00:11:57,281 --> 00:11:58,629 Well, that's not possible. 310 00:11:58,630 --> 00:12:00,544 My wife was only using the rental for errands 311 00:12:00,545 --> 00:12:01,545 while hers was in the shop. 312 00:12:01,546 --> 00:12:03,046 Someone else must have used it. 313 00:12:03,157 --> 00:12:04,854 Carol, come down! 314 00:12:07,727 --> 00:12:09,772 They're here about the rental car. 315 00:12:09,990 --> 00:12:11,251 - Rental car? 316 00:12:11,252 --> 00:12:13,558 - Hey, we found this in the garage trash, 317 00:12:13,733 --> 00:12:15,952 bagged a few times. 318 00:12:15,953 --> 00:12:17,953 We sprayed luminol. It's got blood spatter on it. 319 00:12:17,954 --> 00:12:19,129 - Blood? 320 00:12:19,347 --> 00:12:21,784 What in the hell is going on here? 321 00:12:22,002 --> 00:12:25,309 - Mrs. Massey, is that your jacket? 322 00:12:25,527 --> 00:12:27,485 - Roger, say nothing. 323 00:12:27,703 --> 00:12:29,095 - What? - Just say nothing. 324 00:12:29,096 --> 00:12:31,184 - All right, let's go. We're taking them both in. 325 00:12:31,185 --> 00:12:32,794 - He-he did nothing wrong. - That's okay. Come on. 326 00:12:32,795 --> 00:12:34,404 We're gonna let the DA make that call. 327 00:12:34,405 --> 00:12:36,319 - You have the right to remain silent, do you understand? 328 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,060 Anything you say can and will be used against you. 329 00:12:38,061 --> 00:12:39,322 Do you understand? - Roger, it's okay. 330 00:12:39,323 --> 00:12:40,373 Say nothing. 331 00:12:40,542 --> 00:12:41,848 Nothing. 332 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,160 - Neither the wife nor the husband is talking? 333 00:12:50,161 --> 00:12:52,509 - No, not a peep, and they both have lawyers on the way. 334 00:12:52,510 --> 00:12:55,340 But I did call the insurance company where Roger works, 335 00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:57,100 and they say he was in the office 336 00:12:57,124 --> 00:12:58,733 on the day of the gun show. 337 00:12:58,734 --> 00:13:02,607 Also, there was only one person in the surveillance video 338 00:13:02,782 --> 00:13:05,393 of the rental car, who matches her build. 339 00:13:05,394 --> 00:13:08,351 All the evidence points to the wife being a single shooter, 340 00:13:08,352 --> 00:13:10,353 wearing the jacket that was found at the Massey house 341 00:13:10,354 --> 00:13:11,660 with the victim's blood. 342 00:13:11,661 --> 00:13:13,487 I mean, Carol's DNA is all over it. 343 00:13:13,488 --> 00:13:15,185 - Why does a suburban wife 344 00:13:15,403 --> 00:13:17,839 execute a 30-something influencer? 345 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,537 - We pulled the phone records. 346 00:13:19,755 --> 00:13:22,975 It seems like Roger called her twice, five months ago. 347 00:13:22,976 --> 00:13:24,672 And then she stopped answering his calls. 348 00:13:24,673 --> 00:13:25,892 - What about her? 349 00:13:25,893 --> 00:13:27,849 She have any contact with the victim? 350 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:29,416 - She reached out a few times in the weeks before the murder, 351 00:13:29,417 --> 00:13:31,287 but the calls always went to voicemail. 352 00:13:31,288 --> 00:13:35,553 - So maybe the husband had an affair with Emily Starr, 353 00:13:35,771 --> 00:13:37,381 and the wife got jealous? 354 00:13:37,599 --> 00:13:39,209 - Motive is iffy here. 355 00:13:40,645 --> 00:13:44,301 - But we can prove that she bought the gun the week before, 356 00:13:44,302 --> 00:13:45,867 and then she shot the victim in the back of the head? 357 00:13:45,868 --> 00:13:48,038 - I think any grand jury in town will say yes. 358 00:13:48,175 --> 00:13:49,654 - So... 359 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:51,221 cut the husband loose, 360 00:13:51,439 --> 00:13:53,093 charge the wife with murder two. 361 00:13:55,747 --> 00:13:57,749 - So what's the connection 362 00:13:57,924 --> 00:14:00,056 between Carol Massey and Emily Starr? 363 00:14:00,274 --> 00:14:02,744 'Cause other than some unanswered phone calls, 364 00:14:02,745 --> 00:14:04,843 I don't see that she sent any emails to the victim. 365 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:09,239 - No, no, but here's a flurry of emails 366 00:14:09,457 --> 00:14:12,764 with someone named Lauren Hope in the month before the murder. 367 00:14:12,939 --> 00:14:15,376 Subject, uh, "Why won't you listen," 368 00:14:15,593 --> 00:14:18,422 and "Stop ignoring me." 369 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,164 Email address is at Hudson University. 370 00:14:21,382 --> 00:14:22,512 - Hmm. 371 00:14:22,513 --> 00:14:25,168 Well, according to her social media, 372 00:14:25,386 --> 00:14:27,431 Lauren Hope, age 20, 373 00:14:27,432 --> 00:14:29,258 used to live in Darien, Connecticut, 374 00:14:29,259 --> 00:14:30,913 before she went to Hudson. 375 00:14:31,131 --> 00:14:35,178 Oh, used to be tagged in her photos as Lauren Massey. 376 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:38,703 - She's the couple's daughter? 377 00:14:40,270 --> 00:14:42,664 Is there a Lauren Hope in Emily's records? 378 00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:44,796 - Lauren Hope. 379 00:14:44,971 --> 00:14:49,497 Oh, just last year she spent 14 grand on Starr's workshop. 380 00:14:49,714 --> 00:14:51,238 Three-day cleanse. 381 00:14:51,455 --> 00:14:54,502 - That is a lot of money for green juice. 382 00:14:54,719 --> 00:14:57,635 - She also paid weekly rent to stay at Starr's center 383 00:14:57,853 --> 00:14:59,681 last winter, over the holidays. 384 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:01,552 Guessing Mom didn't like that. 385 00:15:01,770 --> 00:15:04,033 - This email to her daughter says, 386 00:15:04,251 --> 00:15:08,211 "Emily Starr only wants your money," 387 00:15:08,429 --> 00:15:11,606 and "the woman is dangerous." 388 00:15:11,823 --> 00:15:15,653 So, rebellious kid changes name, 389 00:15:15,871 --> 00:15:20,310 blows through thousands on fringe wellness regimen? 390 00:15:20,528 --> 00:15:22,530 - Mom kills to shut it down? 391 00:15:24,401 --> 00:15:27,883 - It's not perfect, but it's the beginning of a narrative. 392 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:34,977 An illegally purchased handgun a week before the murder, 393 00:15:35,195 --> 00:15:37,806 the victim's blood on the defendant's jacket, 394 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:41,244 emails detailing Carol Massey's anger 395 00:15:41,462 --> 00:15:44,172 at her daughter's spending at Emily Starr's center- 396 00:15:44,334 --> 00:15:47,772 the state has a preponderance of evidence 397 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:52,603 linking Carol Massey to this horrific crime... 398 00:15:52,821 --> 00:15:54,605 which ended the life 399 00:15:54,823 --> 00:15:56,390 of an innocent young woman. 400 00:16:01,264 --> 00:16:05,094 - Everything Mr. Price said, absolutely true. 401 00:16:05,312 --> 00:16:08,054 The evidence against my client is crystal clear. 402 00:16:08,271 --> 00:16:10,012 What's not clear? 403 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:13,668 Why Carol Massey had to commit this horrific crime. 404 00:16:13,669 --> 00:16:16,278 Well, I'll tell you- because Emily Starr is not, 405 00:16:16,279 --> 00:16:19,543 as Mr. Price would have you believe, an innocent woman. 406 00:16:19,761 --> 00:16:23,199 She was instead a deadly, imminent threat 407 00:16:23,417 --> 00:16:26,159 to the defendant's daughter, Lauren Massey. 408 00:16:26,376 --> 00:16:29,858 20-year-old Lauren nearly died under Emily Starr's 409 00:16:30,032 --> 00:16:31,642 so-called care 410 00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:34,210 and would have died 411 00:16:34,428 --> 00:16:36,517 had Carol Massey not acted. 412 00:16:36,734 --> 00:16:38,562 My client only killed Emily Starr 413 00:16:38,780 --> 00:16:41,477 to save her daughter's life. 414 00:16:41,478 --> 00:16:44,133 This was an incontrovertible defense of others. 415 00:16:44,351 --> 00:16:45,481 - Objection. 416 00:16:45,482 --> 00:16:48,094 Your Honor, this is unfair surprise. 417 00:16:48,311 --> 00:16:49,878 - Chambers. 418 00:16:50,052 --> 00:16:52,663 - Emily Starr was unarmed when she was shot. 419 00:16:52,664 --> 00:16:54,534 - We're not saying she was a threat to Carol Massey. 420 00:16:54,535 --> 00:16:56,405 She was an imminent threat to Lauren. 421 00:16:56,406 --> 00:16:58,059 - Who was nowhere near the crime scene. 422 00:16:58,060 --> 00:17:00,845 Your Honor, Lauren Massey has not responded to us, 423 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:03,805 but we can confirm that she was 3 miles 424 00:17:03,806 --> 00:17:05,936 from the shooting that night. - Is this true? 425 00:17:05,937 --> 00:17:07,416 - It's irrelevant to our defense. 426 00:17:07,417 --> 00:17:08,983 Your Honor, Lauren Massey suffers from 427 00:17:08,984 --> 00:17:10,986 acute lymphocytic leukemia. 428 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,600 She won't respond to Mr. Price 429 00:17:12,601 --> 00:17:13,814 'cause she was in the hospital, 430 00:17:13,815 --> 00:17:16,209 finally receiving proper medical care. 431 00:17:16,426 --> 00:17:20,082 - Uh, Your Honor, Section 35.15, New York State Code, 432 00:17:20,083 --> 00:17:22,910 mandates that defense of others can only be invoked 433 00:17:22,911 --> 00:17:26,915 to stop the use of unlawful physical force against someone. 434 00:17:27,089 --> 00:17:29,047 - Physical harm was a component. 435 00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:31,224 Emily Starr made Lauren Massey forsake 436 00:17:31,441 --> 00:17:33,001 lifesaving medical treatment. 437 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:34,879 - But her advice wasn't unlawful, 438 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,620 and the defendant was too far from her daughter at the time 439 00:17:37,621 --> 00:17:39,311 of the shooting to possibly meet 440 00:17:39,406 --> 00:17:41,026 the reasonable belief standard 441 00:17:41,103 --> 00:17:43,540 that her daughter's death was imminent. 442 00:17:43,541 --> 00:17:46,194 - Your Honor, we will present science to show her death 443 00:17:46,195 --> 00:17:47,413 was imminent. 444 00:17:47,414 --> 00:17:49,546 Due to Emily Starr's reckless remedies, 445 00:17:49,764 --> 00:17:52,201 Lauren Massey was on the brink of death 446 00:17:52,419 --> 00:17:54,247 until her mother intervened. 447 00:17:56,423 --> 00:17:58,207 - I'll allow. 448 00:18:00,340 --> 00:18:02,690 - The defense is totally meritless, 449 00:18:02,907 --> 00:18:06,128 but we need to be ready for whatever accusations 450 00:18:06,346 --> 00:18:08,826 they throw at the victim. 451 00:18:09,044 --> 00:18:12,178 - So what did Emily Starr actually say about cancer? 452 00:18:12,395 --> 00:18:13,962 - [sighs] 453 00:18:15,485 --> 00:18:20,316 "Juicing cleanses the body of toxins and fights disease," 454 00:18:20,534 --> 00:18:24,668 and "Rebalancing the body's pH level can kill cancer." 455 00:18:24,886 --> 00:18:27,671 pH level. That is a nice touch. 456 00:18:27,889 --> 00:18:31,197 So Emily Starr peddled in unproven remedies, 457 00:18:31,414 --> 00:18:33,547 and a teenager ended up dangerously sick. 458 00:18:33,548 --> 00:18:36,766 - Yeah, but Emily didn't use physical force against Lauren. 459 00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:38,986 It doesn't meet the legal standard of the defense. 460 00:18:38,987 --> 00:18:41,207 - It may not matter to the jury. 461 00:18:41,208 --> 00:18:43,121 Defense is gonna have a field day presenting 462 00:18:43,122 --> 00:18:44,819 Emily's homeopathic nonsense. 463 00:18:45,036 --> 00:18:46,906 They will go for jury nullification 464 00:18:46,951 --> 00:18:51,826 and force us to defend her pH juice cleanses. 465 00:18:52,043 --> 00:18:54,437 - Nolan, just so you know, 466 00:18:54,655 --> 00:18:57,136 I don't think homeopathy is nonsense, 467 00:18:57,310 --> 00:18:59,660 and I'm gonna bet there are a few jury members 468 00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:01,227 who are just like me. 469 00:19:01,444 --> 00:19:04,360 I actually followed Emily Starr. 470 00:19:04,578 --> 00:19:06,754 You can't just dismiss an entire field. 471 00:19:06,971 --> 00:19:09,452 - As it pertains to this case, 472 00:19:09,670 --> 00:19:11,715 the defense will paint Emily Starr 473 00:19:11,933 --> 00:19:13,717 as a deadly snake oil saleswoman, 474 00:19:13,935 --> 00:19:16,705 and they will argue that the stakes for Lauren Massey, 475 00:19:16,851 --> 00:19:19,681 who is battling a serious leukemia, were life and death. 476 00:19:19,682 --> 00:19:21,594 It's not gonna be hard for the defense 477 00:19:21,595 --> 00:19:24,119 to garner sympathy for the mom of a cancer victim. 478 00:19:26,077 --> 00:19:27,209 - Okay. 479 00:19:27,427 --> 00:19:29,255 So we remind the jury 480 00:19:29,472 --> 00:19:31,344 that this is about free speech, 481 00:19:31,345 --> 00:19:33,432 that it's about guarding care options 482 00:19:33,433 --> 00:19:34,825 they may very well want. 483 00:19:35,043 --> 00:19:37,219 We defend Emily's integrity 484 00:19:37,437 --> 00:19:40,266 and we make damn sure she's sympathetic as well. 485 00:19:43,356 --> 00:19:45,836 - Healing others was her life's calling. 486 00:19:45,837 --> 00:19:47,446 She wanted people to know they had choices 487 00:19:47,447 --> 00:19:48,795 outside of the establishment. 488 00:19:48,796 --> 00:19:50,189 - How did she help you? 489 00:19:50,406 --> 00:19:51,456 - I was an addict. 490 00:19:51,625 --> 00:19:53,061 Opioids. 491 00:19:53,235 --> 00:19:54,675 She walked me through detox, 492 00:19:54,676 --> 00:19:56,585 gave me natural remedies for the pain, 493 00:19:56,586 --> 00:19:58,632 sat with me through the worst of it. 494 00:19:58,633 --> 00:20:01,111 - Did Emily ever prevent you getting a second opinion 495 00:20:01,112 --> 00:20:02,330 from a real doctor? 496 00:20:02,331 --> 00:20:04,321 - No, but I've honestly been so healthy 497 00:20:04,464 --> 00:20:06,292 it hasn't even crossed my mind. 498 00:20:06,509 --> 00:20:08,816 I owe everything to her guidance. 499 00:20:09,033 --> 00:20:10,296 - Nothing further. 500 00:20:13,386 --> 00:20:16,389 - How much did Emily's guidance cost? 501 00:20:16,606 --> 00:20:18,042 - I can't say exactly. 502 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:19,435 - Ballpark. Last year, 503 00:20:19,653 --> 00:20:21,131 how much did she make? 504 00:20:21,132 --> 00:20:23,438 I mean, you had access to her business statements. 505 00:20:23,439 --> 00:20:25,920 - It was around 700,000. - Wow. 506 00:20:25,921 --> 00:20:27,790 - But her company earnings allowed her 507 00:20:27,791 --> 00:20:30,446 to grow her platform, reach more people. 508 00:20:30,664 --> 00:20:33,194 - How much money did Emily make off Lauren Massey, 509 00:20:33,275 --> 00:20:34,711 the defendant's daughter? 510 00:20:34,929 --> 00:20:36,582 - I'm not sure. 511 00:20:36,583 --> 00:20:40,804 - Your Honor, I'm handing over what has been marked exhibit A, 512 00:20:41,022 --> 00:20:44,032 Lauren Massey's payment records to Starr Serenity Center. 513 00:20:44,765 --> 00:20:47,202 Would you read aloud the total amount? 514 00:20:47,376 --> 00:20:49,683 - $23,204. 515 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:52,033 - 23,000. 516 00:20:52,034 --> 00:20:54,469 Was that for high-tech machines, CT scans, 517 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:56,342 MRIs, cutting-edge medicine? 518 00:20:56,343 --> 00:20:58,734 - She offered a full homeopathic regimen of juice, 519 00:20:58,735 --> 00:21:00,355 herbal teas, enemas, exercise- 520 00:21:00,563 --> 00:21:03,262 - Were you aware that doctors, people with actual 521 00:21:03,479 --> 00:21:05,655 medical degrees who study cancer, 522 00:21:05,873 --> 00:21:09,790 had given Lauren an 85% to 100% long-term survival rate 523 00:21:09,791 --> 00:21:11,965 if she underwent chemo and radiation? 524 00:21:11,966 --> 00:21:13,896 But that if her cancer went untreated 525 00:21:14,011 --> 00:21:16,231 by those tested therapies, 526 00:21:16,405 --> 00:21:17,580 they estimated 527 00:21:17,581 --> 00:21:19,189 that she had only a year to live? 528 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:20,366 - I don't think- 529 00:21:20,367 --> 00:21:22,410 - Your Honor, Mr. Sirianni's questions 530 00:21:22,411 --> 00:21:24,194 are outside the scope of the witness's testimony. 531 00:21:24,195 --> 00:21:25,458 - Withdrawn. 532 00:21:25,675 --> 00:21:27,721 [tense music] 533 00:21:27,938 --> 00:21:29,157 But... 534 00:21:29,331 --> 00:21:31,201 just so I can completely wrap my head 535 00:21:31,246 --> 00:21:32,378 around the finances, 536 00:21:32,595 --> 00:21:34,380 true or false: 537 00:21:34,597 --> 00:21:36,773 Emily Starr asked Lauren Massey 538 00:21:36,991 --> 00:21:40,081 to pay her $23,000 539 00:21:40,082 --> 00:21:42,038 to be killed slowly within a year? 540 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:43,737 - Objection. - Withdrawn. 541 00:21:43,954 --> 00:21:45,086 Nothing further. 542 00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:51,048 ? ? 543 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,622 - Get this- "Influencer's followers 544 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,755 sing her holistic praises." 545 00:22:01,972 --> 00:22:04,714 Emily Starr's subscribers list is growing. 546 00:22:04,932 --> 00:22:07,717 Her followers are making TikTok testimonials. 547 00:22:07,935 --> 00:22:10,241 - After the defense painted her as a crook? 548 00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:12,505 - Guess all press is good press. 549 00:22:12,506 --> 00:22:14,549 - Not according to the oncology community. 550 00:22:14,550 --> 00:22:16,116 They're up in arms about all this 551 00:22:16,117 --> 00:22:18,032 anti-science wellness stuff. 552 00:22:18,249 --> 00:22:21,601 They have officially denounced Emily, her center, 553 00:22:21,818 --> 00:22:24,865 and 18,000 other TikTok influencers 554 00:22:25,082 --> 00:22:27,737 whose cancer cures have no basis in science. 555 00:22:27,955 --> 00:22:29,565 - 18,000? That's a lot. 556 00:22:29,783 --> 00:22:31,001 - Yeah, it is. 557 00:22:32,742 --> 00:22:35,484 And that could be useful. 558 00:22:41,142 --> 00:22:43,552 - And when did you learn that Lauren had decided 559 00:22:43,579 --> 00:22:47,017 on Emily Starr's so-called therapy? 560 00:22:47,235 --> 00:22:50,369 - Lauren missed a follow-up with her oncologist, 561 00:22:50,586 --> 00:22:52,196 so I called her. 562 00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:57,463 She said big business had caused her cancer. 563 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,640 She didn't want big pharma to profit off her treatment. 564 00:23:00,641 --> 00:23:02,684 She told us she was changing her name 565 00:23:02,685 --> 00:23:05,427 to reflect this new outlook- 566 00:23:05,645 --> 00:23:07,603 Lauren Hope. 567 00:23:07,821 --> 00:23:09,751 And, uh, she didn't want my dangerous 568 00:23:09,823 --> 00:23:11,781 and doom-filled advice. 569 00:23:11,999 --> 00:23:14,654 I was so confused. 570 00:23:14,871 --> 00:23:18,005 And then eventually we found a credit card bill 571 00:23:18,222 --> 00:23:21,400 for Starr Serenity Center and figured out 572 00:23:21,574 --> 00:23:23,227 who Emily Starr was. 573 00:23:23,228 --> 00:23:25,185 - And what was the status of Lauren's cancer 574 00:23:25,186 --> 00:23:26,236 during this time? 575 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:27,927 - We didn't know. 576 00:23:27,928 --> 00:23:31,410 But last June, we got a phone call from an ambulance. 577 00:23:31,627 --> 00:23:33,586 Lauren had collapsed in a store. 578 00:23:33,803 --> 00:23:36,153 At the hospital we got her an MRI, 579 00:23:36,371 --> 00:23:40,244 and the cancer, it was all over her insides. 580 00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:43,596 It was just eating her away. 581 00:23:43,813 --> 00:23:46,523 And we thought this would snap her back to her senses, 582 00:23:46,642 --> 00:23:51,255 but Emily told her it was a natural cleansing stage, 583 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:54,607 that what she needed was rest at the center. 584 00:23:56,217 --> 00:23:59,046 My husband and I had four different oncologists 585 00:23:59,263 --> 00:24:00,526 look at Lauren's scans, 586 00:24:00,527 --> 00:24:02,178 and they all said the same thing- 587 00:24:02,179 --> 00:24:04,355 that she would be dead within months. 588 00:24:04,356 --> 00:24:06,226 - Did you give this information to Lauren? 589 00:24:06,227 --> 00:24:07,663 - We couldn't. 590 00:24:07,881 --> 00:24:10,187 Emily told her to avoid upsetting contact. 591 00:24:10,405 --> 00:24:12,059 I couldn't find her at her dorm. 592 00:24:12,276 --> 00:24:14,686 I didn't know if she was at the center or on a trip. 593 00:24:14,844 --> 00:24:19,153 All I knew was that she was gonna die very soon. 594 00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:24,288 - Nothing further. 595 00:24:27,901 --> 00:24:30,773 - Mrs. Massey, um, 596 00:24:30,991 --> 00:24:32,253 I- 597 00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:35,604 I can only imagine how stressful it is 598 00:24:35,605 --> 00:24:38,127 to have a sick child, and I applaud your efforts 599 00:24:38,128 --> 00:24:39,564 to get her the best treatment. 600 00:24:39,565 --> 00:24:40,615 - Thank you. 601 00:24:40,783 --> 00:24:43,090 - She had chemo 602 00:24:43,307 --> 00:24:44,831 and radiation, correct? 603 00:24:45,048 --> 00:24:46,572 - At the start, yes. 604 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:50,489 - So your daughter was well-versed 605 00:24:50,706 --> 00:24:52,839 in the care options available, 606 00:24:53,056 --> 00:24:55,189 and yet she chose something else. 607 00:24:55,406 --> 00:24:59,280 - No, she was led to believe that this juice option 608 00:24:59,498 --> 00:25:02,370 could be as effective as radiation and chemo. 609 00:25:02,544 --> 00:25:05,982 And then Emily told her that she was better. 610 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,202 That-that's not a choice, that's a con. 611 00:25:08,419 --> 00:25:11,335 [tense music] 612 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:15,209 - You admit freely to shooting Emily Starr? 613 00:25:15,426 --> 00:25:16,732 - I do. 614 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,060 - Right, because of the dangerous advice 615 00:25:19,126 --> 00:25:20,326 she gave your daughter? 616 00:25:20,475 --> 00:25:21,868 - Yes. 617 00:25:22,085 --> 00:25:25,698 - Did you know, Mrs. Massey, that just last year, 618 00:25:25,915 --> 00:25:28,744 over 18,000 wellness advisors 619 00:25:28,962 --> 00:25:32,879 recommended alternatives to chemo and radiation? 620 00:25:33,096 --> 00:25:34,533 Would you kill them all? 621 00:25:36,404 --> 00:25:38,574 - Those thousands didn't shut my daughter 622 00:25:38,624 --> 00:25:39,973 away from her parents. 623 00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:42,279 - Is that what this is about? 624 00:25:42,497 --> 00:25:45,631 Anger that Emily Starr assumed your role? 625 00:25:45,848 --> 00:25:47,110 - [scoffs] 626 00:25:47,328 --> 00:25:48,763 No. 627 00:25:48,764 --> 00:25:50,635 - Is that why you could think of no other remedy 628 00:25:50,636 --> 00:25:51,766 but to shoot her? 629 00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:53,813 - I just went there to scare her, 630 00:25:54,030 --> 00:25:56,685 to beg her to leave Lauren alone. 631 00:25:56,903 --> 00:25:58,833 - With a loaded gun that you had driven 632 00:25:58,992 --> 00:26:00,612 across state lines to purchase? 633 00:26:00,776 --> 00:26:03,649 - Lauren needed treatment. She needed a doctor. 634 00:26:03,866 --> 00:26:05,999 Emily walked away. 635 00:26:06,216 --> 00:26:09,045 Her spell over my daughter, it needed to be broken. 636 00:26:09,046 --> 00:26:11,525 My baby was gonna die. I wasn't gonna let that happen. 637 00:26:11,526 --> 00:26:14,181 So, yes, I-I shot her. 638 00:26:14,398 --> 00:26:19,447 ? ? 639 00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:21,623 - [sighs] 640 00:26:21,841 --> 00:26:24,147 Nothing further. 641 00:26:24,365 --> 00:26:25,714 - Let's adjourn for the day. 642 00:26:27,934 --> 00:26:30,763 - The jury knows the mom legally overstepped. 643 00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:32,503 - I'm just not sure they care. 644 00:26:32,678 --> 00:26:35,855 She was very sympathetic. 645 00:26:35,856 --> 00:26:37,420 - What, you're assuming the jury 646 00:26:37,421 --> 00:26:39,379 can't keep their emotions out of this? 647 00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:42,513 - No, I'm assuming they think the mother was suffering 648 00:26:42,514 --> 00:26:44,689 some sort of extreme emotional distress 649 00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:46,560 when she was confronted with how dangerously 650 00:26:46,561 --> 00:26:48,127 her daughter's cancer had spread. 651 00:26:48,128 --> 00:26:51,087 The girl was on the precipice of death. 652 00:26:51,305 --> 00:26:54,351 - Okay, Nolan, don't go soft on me. 653 00:26:54,569 --> 00:26:56,178 Okay? Not now. 654 00:26:56,179 --> 00:26:58,920 Look, I-I'm truly sorry for what that woman went through, 655 00:26:58,921 --> 00:27:00,575 but no way did she lose her cool. 656 00:27:00,749 --> 00:27:02,272 [phone buzzes] 657 00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:04,361 [sighs] Well, 658 00:27:04,579 --> 00:27:05,629 get ready to contend 659 00:27:05,841 --> 00:27:08,931 with another sympathetic witness. 660 00:27:09,149 --> 00:27:11,020 Lauren Massey's out of the hospital. 661 00:27:15,459 --> 00:27:17,329 - Lauren, thank you for coming today. 662 00:27:17,505 --> 00:27:19,768 I know it took a lot to get here. 663 00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:21,204 - It did. 664 00:27:21,422 --> 00:27:24,077 But I'm just grateful to be alive, 665 00:27:24,294 --> 00:27:26,688 and I owe it to my mother. 666 00:27:26,906 --> 00:27:29,865 - Lauren, the jury has heard about Emily Starr's regimen, 667 00:27:29,866 --> 00:27:32,345 and there's been some speculation as to how and why 668 00:27:32,346 --> 00:27:33,869 you came to follow her advice. 669 00:27:34,087 --> 00:27:36,959 Could you tell us in your own words? 670 00:27:39,614 --> 00:27:43,226 - I hated being a girl with a disease. 671 00:27:43,444 --> 00:27:46,403 Emily made it seem like 672 00:27:46,621 --> 00:27:48,928 there was an easy way to get better. 673 00:27:49,145 --> 00:27:53,759 The things the oncologist had told me 674 00:27:53,976 --> 00:27:56,500 didn't seem real. 675 00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:58,981 Emily preyed upon that, 676 00:27:59,199 --> 00:28:02,158 then made sure hers was the only voice I heard. 677 00:28:02,376 --> 00:28:04,857 Told me my cancer was gone. 678 00:28:06,902 --> 00:28:09,209 Do you understand how crazy that is? 679 00:28:10,906 --> 00:28:12,995 Did you show them the scans 680 00:28:13,213 --> 00:28:14,713 of what was going on inside me, 681 00:28:14,867 --> 00:28:17,696 the scans she prevented me from seeing? 682 00:28:20,002 --> 00:28:22,701 Thank God for my mother, 683 00:28:22,918 --> 00:28:24,746 or I wouldn't be here. 684 00:28:26,487 --> 00:28:27,793 - Thank you, Lauren. 685 00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:29,664 Nothing further. 686 00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:40,719 Lauren... 687 00:28:42,329 --> 00:28:44,723 I know you have been through a lot 688 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:48,335 and clearly 689 00:28:48,552 --> 00:28:50,467 love your mother very much. 690 00:28:50,685 --> 00:28:52,164 - I do. 691 00:28:52,165 --> 00:28:54,732 - And you express dismay that Emily had lied to you, 692 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:56,646 so I wanna give you a chance to be honest. 693 00:28:56,647 --> 00:28:58,954 You were 19 when you decided to stop chemo 694 00:28:58,955 --> 00:29:00,955 and follow Emily's health recommendations? 695 00:29:00,956 --> 00:29:02,522 - Yes. 696 00:29:02,523 --> 00:29:06,483 - Of legal age to make medical decisions for yourself? 697 00:29:06,701 --> 00:29:08,180 - Yes. 698 00:29:08,181 --> 00:29:11,184 - Did Emily ever tell you she had medical training? 699 00:29:12,315 --> 00:29:13,534 - No. 700 00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:17,233 - And you understood that your doctor 701 00:29:17,451 --> 00:29:21,672 had recommended chemo and radiation? 702 00:29:21,847 --> 00:29:23,457 - Yes. 703 00:29:23,674 --> 00:29:25,546 [tense music] 704 00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:28,636 - Did Emily Starr 705 00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:30,551 ever lock you in a room? 706 00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:36,252 - No, but she restrained me 707 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:38,037 psychologically. 708 00:29:38,254 --> 00:29:41,257 Told me to cut ties with anyone negative- 709 00:29:41,475 --> 00:29:44,130 my parents, my doctor. 710 00:29:44,347 --> 00:29:48,743 She said their fearmongering would make my cancer worse. 711 00:29:48,917 --> 00:29:52,399 - And you believed her? 712 00:29:52,616 --> 00:29:55,402 ? ? 713 00:29:55,619 --> 00:29:57,404 - When you're sick, 714 00:29:57,621 --> 00:30:01,408 you want it to go away so badly. 715 00:30:02,713 --> 00:30:04,280 Any liar can own you. 716 00:30:06,456 --> 00:30:09,938 My actual doctor, he's not allowed to lie. 717 00:30:10,156 --> 00:30:11,810 You all won't let him. 718 00:30:11,984 --> 00:30:14,987 He had to tell me the treatment was going to be awful. 719 00:30:17,728 --> 00:30:21,254 Why was Emily allowed to say anything? 720 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:25,911 It almost cost me my life. 721 00:30:27,956 --> 00:30:31,917 I'm only better now because I finally saw the MRIs. 722 00:30:32,134 --> 00:30:34,528 I saw proof that my cancer had gotten worse 723 00:30:34,745 --> 00:30:37,574 under Emily's care. 724 00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:39,925 In all of this, 725 00:30:40,142 --> 00:30:42,188 my mother was the only person 726 00:30:42,405 --> 00:30:45,234 willing to fight for me, 727 00:30:45,452 --> 00:30:47,280 to save me. 728 00:30:49,021 --> 00:30:51,588 Please, 729 00:30:51,806 --> 00:30:53,852 don't punish her. 730 00:30:56,158 --> 00:30:57,208 [sniffles] 731 00:30:57,333 --> 00:31:01,120 ? ? 732 00:31:01,337 --> 00:31:03,122 - Nothing further. 733 00:31:03,339 --> 00:31:08,649 ? ? 734 00:31:18,528 --> 00:31:21,053 - Tough witness. 735 00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:24,317 - Push too hard and it backfires. 736 00:31:24,534 --> 00:31:27,233 I can tell the jury feels really sorry 737 00:31:27,450 --> 00:31:29,322 for the daughter and the mom. 738 00:31:29,539 --> 00:31:31,759 [sighs] And frankly, Sam, I'm- 739 00:31:31,933 --> 00:31:34,109 I'm feeling it myself. 740 00:31:34,327 --> 00:31:36,503 - It doesn't justify murder. 741 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,985 - A TikTok star convincing a teenager with cancer 742 00:31:40,202 --> 00:31:42,857 to forgo life-saving treatment, that is bad enough. 743 00:31:42,858 --> 00:31:45,032 But preventing the girl from receiving 744 00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:47,905 critical medical information from an actual oncologist 745 00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:49,255 after she collapsed? 746 00:31:49,472 --> 00:31:51,910 - All she did was tell Lauren to stay off email. 747 00:31:52,127 --> 00:31:54,477 - And to avoid speaking with her parents. 748 00:31:54,695 --> 00:31:57,002 That's not free speech, Sam. That's coercion. 749 00:31:57,003 --> 00:31:58,916 Emily Starr assumed a duty of care 750 00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,920 when Lauren was at her center, and she violated it. 751 00:32:01,921 --> 00:32:05,009 - So what, now you're saying that the mother was reasonable 752 00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:06,924 in believing that this was the only way 753 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:08,229 to save her daughter's life? 754 00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:10,319 - Reasonable? No. 755 00:32:10,537 --> 00:32:12,931 Understandable? 756 00:32:13,148 --> 00:32:16,630 - Nolan, what happened to "the law is your compass"? 757 00:32:16,847 --> 00:32:18,501 - [sighs] 758 00:32:20,590 --> 00:32:24,072 My mother died of breast cancer. 759 00:32:24,290 --> 00:32:26,596 - I'm so sorry. I- 760 00:32:26,814 --> 00:32:29,643 - The treatments, they were pretty brutal. 761 00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:31,819 She'd always been high-octane. 762 00:32:31,993 --> 00:32:33,043 She was a lawyer. 763 00:32:33,081 --> 00:32:35,736 She was a damn good one. 764 00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:39,000 She hated being so drained. 765 00:32:39,218 --> 00:32:42,482 And then she started reading about homeopathic treatments. 766 00:32:44,049 --> 00:32:46,159 Eventually, she fell for the hope pitch, 767 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,573 stopped chemo for a few months. 768 00:32:47,574 --> 00:32:49,864 She got her hair back. She got some energy back. 769 00:32:50,011 --> 00:32:53,493 But that cost her... 770 00:32:53,710 --> 00:32:56,583 a year of her life. 771 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,674 When you are that sick, you are vulnerable. 772 00:33:02,284 --> 00:33:03,633 - Yeah. 773 00:33:05,113 --> 00:33:07,159 But we need to get justice for Emily. 774 00:33:07,376 --> 00:33:08,987 - Yes. 775 00:33:09,204 --> 00:33:13,556 But man one and 15 years is not a terrible outcome. 776 00:33:13,774 --> 00:33:16,364 - I'm not sure it's the just or appropriate outcome. 777 00:33:16,365 --> 00:33:18,691 - Well, you wanna risk losing this whole thing 778 00:33:18,692 --> 00:33:20,694 to jury nullification? 779 00:33:25,394 --> 00:33:28,049 - I'll set up a meeting. 780 00:33:28,267 --> 00:33:30,921 - Man one is a good offer, Carol. 781 00:33:32,488 --> 00:33:34,751 - But it's an admission of guilt. 782 00:33:34,969 --> 00:33:37,015 - You killed an unarmed woman. 783 00:33:37,232 --> 00:33:39,408 - I saved my daughter's life. 784 00:33:39,626 --> 00:33:41,019 And I stand by the fact that 785 00:33:41,236 --> 00:33:43,586 Emily Starr's actions were deadly. 786 00:33:43,804 --> 00:33:45,458 - Mrs. Massey, I am sympathetic 787 00:33:45,675 --> 00:33:48,026 to the horrible situation that you faced. 788 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,030 That's why we're here with an offer, a very fair offer. 789 00:33:52,247 --> 00:33:54,032 If you decline, 790 00:33:54,033 --> 00:33:55,771 the charge goes back to murder two, 791 00:33:55,772 --> 00:33:59,472 which carries a minimum sentence of 15 years to life. 792 00:34:01,952 --> 00:34:03,519 - Think about Lauren. 793 00:34:03,737 --> 00:34:05,260 Your daughter needs you. 794 00:34:05,261 --> 00:34:06,913 - I am thinking about Lauren, 795 00:34:06,914 --> 00:34:08,785 and all the other Laurens out there. 796 00:34:09,003 --> 00:34:11,440 Emily Starr's business is booming. 797 00:34:11,658 --> 00:34:12,708 This is dangerous. 798 00:34:12,876 --> 00:34:14,316 People need to know the truth. 799 00:34:15,618 --> 00:34:18,056 - Seems like a pretty emphatic no. 800 00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:19,280 Come on. 801 00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:25,498 - [sighs] 802 00:34:28,588 --> 00:34:33,071 The verdict is a toss-up at best. 803 00:34:33,245 --> 00:34:35,475 I feel sorry for her, but I don't want anyone 804 00:34:35,638 --> 00:34:38,076 to walk for a crime like this. 805 00:34:38,250 --> 00:34:41,862 - If the jury is leaning into sympathy and emotion, 806 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,130 let's play the game. 807 00:34:43,342 --> 00:34:44,778 - Meaning? 808 00:34:44,779 --> 00:34:46,996 - Emily had battled cancer herself, right? 809 00:34:46,997 --> 00:34:49,913 She went through the same fear, same struggle. 810 00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:51,958 - You wanna call a rebuttal witness? 811 00:34:51,959 --> 00:34:54,129 - Someone to remind the jury that Emily had 812 00:34:54,135 --> 00:34:57,921 legitimate personal reasons for her unusual recommendations, 813 00:34:58,096 --> 00:34:59,923 that it wasn't about greed. 814 00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:03,101 It was about choices that worked for her. 815 00:35:03,318 --> 00:35:06,669 - In her book, Emily writes about her cancer support group 816 00:35:06,887 --> 00:35:08,845 back in Pennsylvania. 817 00:35:09,063 --> 00:35:10,630 - I'll find them. 818 00:35:14,677 --> 00:35:17,027 - I heard about the court case. 819 00:35:17,202 --> 00:35:20,161 I've just been too busy to follow it all. 820 00:35:20,379 --> 00:35:21,814 - Oh. 821 00:35:21,815 --> 00:35:24,644 I appreciate you taking the time to meet with me. 822 00:35:24,861 --> 00:35:28,474 We're trying to paint a full picture of Emily. 823 00:35:28,691 --> 00:35:31,259 It would be really useful to hear about her 824 00:35:31,260 --> 00:35:33,434 back when she joined your support group. 825 00:35:33,435 --> 00:35:37,831 - Well, Emily, um... 826 00:35:38,048 --> 00:35:39,876 bundle of energy and positivity. 827 00:35:40,094 --> 00:35:43,489 [chuckles] It was really inspiring at first. 828 00:35:43,706 --> 00:35:46,579 You know, a lot of us were battling depression, 829 00:35:46,796 --> 00:35:48,842 struggling with our families. 830 00:35:49,059 --> 00:35:51,758 I had just lost my consulting job 831 00:35:51,975 --> 00:35:55,240 because I'd taken so much time off for treatments. 832 00:35:55,457 --> 00:35:57,198 Couldn't stay on my feet. 833 00:35:57,416 --> 00:35:59,157 [breathes deeply] 834 00:35:59,374 --> 00:36:01,184 Emily got me feeling hopeful again. 835 00:36:01,246 --> 00:36:05,815 - You said it was, uh, inspiring at first. 836 00:36:06,033 --> 00:36:07,339 Did something change? 837 00:36:07,556 --> 00:36:09,776 - It's just... 838 00:36:09,993 --> 00:36:12,463 we'd all jumped in, drinking her teas and juices 839 00:36:12,648 --> 00:36:14,433 but also doing our treatments. 840 00:36:14,650 --> 00:36:18,654 We felt a little better, but Emily- 841 00:36:18,872 --> 00:36:20,178 she had adenocarcinoma. 842 00:36:20,395 --> 00:36:21,445 - Stomach cancer. 843 00:36:21,570 --> 00:36:22,702 - It's brutal. 844 00:36:22,919 --> 00:36:25,531 But she never had any weight loss, 845 00:36:25,748 --> 00:36:27,010 no abdominal pain, 846 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:29,448 never even got tired. 847 00:36:29,665 --> 00:36:33,582 I mean, Emily Starr never did any wrong by me, 848 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,585 but don't you think that's strange? 849 00:36:36,803 --> 00:36:40,415 [ominous music] 850 00:36:40,633 --> 00:36:41,720 - Nope. 851 00:36:41,721 --> 00:36:43,462 No evidence of any tumor tissue, 852 00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:45,489 and not a single microscopic trace 853 00:36:45,507 --> 00:36:47,292 of a cancerous cell in her body. 854 00:36:47,509 --> 00:36:48,728 - And the stomach? 855 00:36:48,945 --> 00:36:50,382 - Was in excellent shape. 856 00:36:50,383 --> 00:36:52,339 You get a chance to talk to her diagnosing doctor? 857 00:36:52,340 --> 00:36:55,561 - No hospital within 200 miles of Emily's hometown, 858 00:36:55,562 --> 00:36:58,084 where she says she was diagnosed with cancer, 859 00:36:58,085 --> 00:37:00,914 has a record of ever admitting her for anything. 860 00:37:01,131 --> 00:37:04,222 - Well, then I'm gonna say she didn't beat cancer. 861 00:37:04,439 --> 00:37:05,919 She never had it. 862 00:37:06,136 --> 00:37:08,487 ? ? 863 00:37:08,704 --> 00:37:10,358 - Thank you. - Thanks. 864 00:37:10,576 --> 00:37:16,495 ? ? 865 00:37:16,712 --> 00:37:20,847 Emily's whole foundational story was a lie? 866 00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:25,155 Jury is gonna loathe her, 867 00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:27,680 and quite possibly let the mom walk. 868 00:37:27,897 --> 00:37:30,465 - Wait, why does the jury need to know? 869 00:37:30,683 --> 00:37:32,772 This doesn't meet the Brady standard. 870 00:37:32,773 --> 00:37:35,556 - Sam, we've been in court defending Emily's right 871 00:37:35,557 --> 00:37:38,125 to share her theory of self-healing. 872 00:37:38,126 --> 00:37:40,126 - But it isn't exculpatory, and it sure as hell 873 00:37:40,127 --> 00:37:42,084 doesn't give the mom the right to gun her down. 874 00:37:42,085 --> 00:37:43,913 - No, of course it doesn't. 875 00:37:44,131 --> 00:37:46,481 But it does show that Carol Massey's mistrust 876 00:37:46,482 --> 00:37:48,265 was warranted, that she was right to think 877 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:49,876 that she was full of crap. 878 00:37:50,093 --> 00:37:52,803 And that, in my opinion, is favorable to the defense, 879 00:37:52,835 --> 00:37:56,143 and quite frankly, the jury should know this. 880 00:37:56,317 --> 00:37:58,607 And so should her followers sitting in court. 881 00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:00,800 - Nolan, like you always say, 882 00:38:01,017 --> 00:38:03,455 our job is to follow the law. 883 00:38:03,672 --> 00:38:05,587 And in my opinion, this information 884 00:38:05,805 --> 00:38:07,915 is irrelevant to Carol Massey's defense. 885 00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:10,767 It has nothing to do with her daughter's imminent death. 886 00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:15,205 - So you think we should just sit on it? 887 00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:16,430 - Yes. 888 00:38:16,511 --> 00:38:19,079 [tense music] 889 00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:20,820 We have to. 890 00:38:21,037 --> 00:38:26,913 ? ? 891 00:38:27,130 --> 00:38:30,786 - One thing is clear- 892 00:38:31,004 --> 00:38:34,181 Carol Massey killed Emily Starr. 893 00:38:34,355 --> 00:38:38,228 And despite her extensive efforts to get away with it, 894 00:38:38,403 --> 00:38:39,794 she was caught. 895 00:38:39,795 --> 00:38:41,753 Once caught, she couldn't contest the evidence, 896 00:38:41,754 --> 00:38:43,582 so she told you 897 00:38:43,799 --> 00:38:46,324 she had to do it because Emily Starr 898 00:38:46,498 --> 00:38:48,848 was about to kill her daughter. 899 00:38:49,065 --> 00:38:52,852 This young wellness influencer's 900 00:38:53,069 --> 00:38:57,247 unconventional ideas were, according to Carol Massey, 901 00:38:57,422 --> 00:38:59,162 tantamount to homicide. 902 00:38:59,163 --> 00:39:01,338 Fortunately for you, she's made your job easy 903 00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:04,472 because the law is crystal clear 904 00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:08,084 about what it considers a legitimate defense of others. 905 00:39:08,302 --> 00:39:12,262 The harm averted must be unlawful 906 00:39:12,437 --> 00:39:14,874 and imminent. 907 00:39:15,091 --> 00:39:18,617 In this case, neither standard was met. 908 00:39:18,834 --> 00:39:22,098 The defense called no expert to testify 909 00:39:22,316 --> 00:39:25,580 that Lauren was gonna die that night, or even that week. 910 00:39:25,798 --> 00:39:27,365 More important, 911 00:39:27,539 --> 00:39:29,976 Emily broke no laws 912 00:39:30,193 --> 00:39:31,891 in advising Lauren. 913 00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:34,981 In fact, for seven years as an active influencer, 914 00:39:35,198 --> 00:39:38,328 not a single civil or criminal charge was brought against her. 915 00:39:39,812 --> 00:39:43,598 You wanna know what unlawful physical force looks like? 916 00:39:43,816 --> 00:39:45,208 It's this. 917 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:48,734 [tense music] 918 00:39:48,735 --> 00:39:51,475 That is the person who needed protecting that night- 919 00:39:51,476 --> 00:39:54,566 a young woman walking home from her own party 920 00:39:54,783 --> 00:39:57,873 when a gun was put to her head. 921 00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:00,501 And none of us could offer her that protection, 922 00:40:00,615 --> 00:40:02,791 but we can 923 00:40:03,009 --> 00:40:06,839 offer her justice. 924 00:40:07,056 --> 00:40:10,146 It's okay to empathize and 925 00:40:10,364 --> 00:40:12,975 to sympathize with Carol Massey. 926 00:40:13,193 --> 00:40:14,847 I do. 927 00:40:15,064 --> 00:40:19,199 But you cannot let her get away with murder. 928 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:26,380 ? ? 929 00:40:28,556 --> 00:40:31,820 - Members of the jury, have you reached a verdict? 930 00:40:32,038 --> 00:40:33,386 - We have, Your Honor. 931 00:40:33,387 --> 00:40:35,868 On the count of murder in the second degree, 932 00:40:36,085 --> 00:40:37,165 we find the defendant... 933 00:40:37,173 --> 00:40:39,219 guilty. 934 00:40:39,220 --> 00:40:41,742 - Members of the jury, we thank you for your service. 935 00:40:41,743 --> 00:40:43,266 We are adjourned. 936 00:40:43,441 --> 00:40:45,834 [gavel bangs] - Mom! 937 00:40:46,052 --> 00:40:47,183 - I'm sorry. 938 00:40:47,184 --> 00:40:48,357 I'm so sorry. 939 00:40:48,358 --> 00:40:50,448 [somber music] 940 00:40:50,622 --> 00:40:53,755 ? ? 941 00:40:53,973 --> 00:40:55,540 - Mr. Price, 942 00:40:55,757 --> 00:40:57,455 we wanted to thank you 943 00:40:57,629 --> 00:40:59,805 for getting Emily justice. 944 00:41:00,022 --> 00:41:04,070 ? ? 945 00:41:04,287 --> 00:41:07,639 - As a great prosecutor once told me, 946 00:41:07,856 --> 00:41:10,468 a good person killing a bad person 947 00:41:10,642 --> 00:41:12,470 is still murder. 948 00:41:12,687 --> 00:41:19,651 ? ? 949 00:41:26,266 --> 00:41:29,182 [dramatic music] 950 00:41:29,399 --> 00:41:36,363 ? ? 951 00:41:56,383 --> 00:41:59,473 [wolf howls] 952 00:41:59,523 --> 00:42:04,073 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0